Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Proof Obama will sign NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law in a few days

(Note- the video is duplicated because videos such as this tend to disappear [download a copy], just in case here it is again:

from the 2011 Senate video 'more info':
"EVEN IF HE DOES, *Congress has a supermajority on this, which overrides a veto. That's why we have only a few days to speak up to Congress before the President signs NDAA Section 1031, permitting citizen imprisonment without evidence or a trial. Congress plans to give it to him to sign by Dec 9. But if we act urgently to raise awareness among our friends, family, and colleagues, we can still prevent this. Here is what we can do:
1) Americans must know about this to stop it. Urgently pass this petition as widely as possible: - Contact the media by any means available to you. ZERO news stories have covered this Chairman Levin clip yet!
2) Congress can still block the law before December 9. Write and call your Representative and Senator telling them to stop NDAA Section 1031.
Contact your Representative:
Contact your Senator:
3) Write and call the White House to tell the President you won't sit by and watch NDAA Section 1031 become law:
4) Stay smart -- To slow down journalists and concerned citizens, it appears Section 1032 was deliberately crafted to distract from Section 1031. However, section 1032 is NOT the citizen imprisonment law. Disturbingly, this confusion is helping Section 1031 to slip by the American people. Do NOT fall for the misdirection, stay informed and urgently work to stop NDAA Section 1031."

UPDATE - 12/12/11- '
"United For Peace and Justice has sent an urgent call saying the Senate and House versions of the bill were reconciled this weekend, with a final version expected either today or tomorrow.  Once complete, the House and Senate will be asked to vote on it very quickly. There is no time to waste!
Let your Senators and Representatives know that you are opposed to the 2012 Defense Authorization bill because it imperils civil liberties, continues an endless war in Afghanistan and elsewhere, wastes billions of dollars that 99% of Americans need for a more secure life here at home
. "
'Obama strips Americans' rights in NDAA bill, proclaims human rights week'
Tell Congress: Say NO to Indefinite Detention and Endless Worldwide War
Stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the American people! 
PETITION- "IMPEACH every single Senator who voted FOR the McCain/Levin "U.S. is a Battlefield" bill that gives the military the right to go to the houses of U.S. citizens and take them without charges or rights to a lawyer or trial for the rest of their lives! The Senators COMMITTED TREASON directly against the United States citizens!"
IMPEACH All the Senators who Voted For Military Detainment of U.S. Citizens! - The Petition Site
I've still heard nothing official from OWS regarding the treason taking place.  WHERE IS OWS?!  They should be all over this!  OCCUPY MUST ACT!  Here are some posts from OWS forum:
Forum Post: Call to Action! Use NaSI SARs to charge your U.S. Representative and Senators who voted for the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (NDAA: S.1867/H.R.1540) with "Seditious Conspiracy" under U.S. Code Title 18 Part I Chapter 115 Section 2384!
Call to Action: Use NaSI SARs to Charge Your Representative & Senators with Seditious Conspiracy
Forum Post: OCCUPY MUST ACT: One Day Left Until American citizens can be detained indefinitely without charges by their own government.

It's a good time to review  Obama's [2009] speech on Preventative 'Prolonged Detention'; the whole thing is absurd but this part really tells a lot, Obama said:
    "In our Constitutional system, prolonged detention should not be the decision of any one man.  If and when we determine that the United States must hold individuals to keep them from carrying out an act of war, we will do so within a system that involves judicial and congressional oversight.  So going forward, my administration will work with Congress to develop an appropriate legal regime so that our efforts are consistent with our values and our Constitution"--

Call, e-mail and GO to Washington DC!  
This is OUR Country and They are Supposed to Work for The People!  
Call Everyone You Know!  This bill is TREASON! 


Occupy D.C.
(2 locations--McPherson Square & Freedom Plaza). 
Time to Reclaim the Capitol!  
Time to Reclaim Liberty!
Reclaim America NOW!

read/track Bill of TREASON

"The magic words which define this Orwellian doublespeak legalese are the phrases: ‘substantially supports’ and ‘associated forces.’
Nowhere in this herculean piece of legislation do we find any concrete criterion clearly establishing the definition of …’substantial support’ or ‘associated forces.’  The fact that this bill was written by Carl Levin, an acknowleged civil rights attorney, with language so vague, constitutes what can only be described as premeditated fraud–and serves as poignant testimony to the cowardly and treasonous nature of the US Senate in 2011.  It is ironic that the majority of senators are attorneys who would never sign on to the flimsy and vague criterion they have imposed on everyone else."
Op-Ed: Does US Senate Commit Treason with NDAA Bill?

December 7, 2011 4:45 pm

Just a few thoughts regarding the NDAA amendments on the issue of indefinite detainment of US citizens.  Lawmakers should have NO hesitation in clarifying the issue, apparently they do.  Some surprising sources say the bill no longer authorizes the indefinite military detention of Americans captured in the US.  I believe that is incorrect and here's why, 

The Feinstein amendment would have banned indefinite detention of US citizens by US government, it was clear language but it was not approved (45-55).  The Senate came up with and passed a "compromised amendment" that some say will protect due process; I do not agree.  The compromised amendment says [2012] NDAA should not be construed to affect 'existing law' relating to the detention of United States citizens.  Rather than clarify the issue, Congress put the issue on 'existing law'.  Don't they make laws?

So here's the problem.  Lower courts are conflicting and SCOTUS hasn't ruled on the issue as in the case of Jose Padilla (see Rumsfeld v. Padilla).  Jose Padilla, a US citizen that was captured INSIDE the US and was held in military prison for years, without charge, after George W Bush declared him an 'enemy combatant'.  The Supreme Court of the United States took the case of Rumsfeld v. Padilla to decide the question of whether Congress's Authorization for Use of Military Force authorized the President to detain a U.S. citizen, but SCOTUS never ruled on the issue, they just said the case was improperly filed.  There is also the 1940s case where a US citizen was prosecuted by the military and executed; SCOTUS said it was legitimate.  So recent actions or existing law doesn't look so good. Liberty, whether it's the SCOTUS-approved-military-killing-of-citizen or the conflicting lower court cases... I'm not sure what existing law are they referring to because SCOTUS never ruled on Padilla which happened because POTUS ignored the Non-Detention Act (see 'References' here).  Why the hell can't they just clarify the law?  They are lawmakers!  Oh yeah, the military state is the agenda.

I can't see any protection from the 'comprised amendment' so if anyone can assure me otherwise, please do.  I'd love to be wrong on this!  Bottom line, this was their opportunity to clarify citizens are immune to indefinite detention or military prosecution, THAT IS THEIR JOB, and they blew it.  Obama and the Senate refuse to make it clear.   We should look at what lawmakers do as opposed to what they say, as it has been made clear time after time that they do not follow the Rule of Law.  So we're left with the Jose Padilla case, an infinite loophole at best, and DUE PROCESS IS NOT PROTECTEDIt is too easy to say indefinite detention does not apply to US citizens, or that US citizen has the Right to civilian court, but they won't!  It begs the question,  
WHY are federal lawmakers so hell bent on not protecting our most basic Rights and overturning the Constitution?  
Every American should be very concerned when federal lawmakers will not clarify the law relating to indefinite detention of US citizens!   
Remember, Hitler's Germany made laws to remove Human Rights of Jews... before he made laws to imprison them... before he killed them.  The globalist agenda keeps marching towards the New World Order and they're taking big steps with this treasonous bill!  I know a lot of our wonderful military men and women will not obey such awful orders that could be coming our way (military detainment of citizens isn't for lone wolves), but should we really leave it to them to face court martial?  Or should we OCCUPY OUR RIGHTS?  NOW!  GO to DC before this bill becomes law! Demand clear language to exclude US citizens from detention by military, indefinite or otherwise!  The House has already approved it but the House and Senate have to combine the two bills.

More about NDAA bill and amendments...
'Senate Declines to Clarify Rights of American Qaeda Suspects Arrested in U.S.',
'The National Defense Authorization Act Opens the Door to a Police State ', Dec 8, 2011

by Matt Taibbi:
"It sounds paranoid and nuts to think that those people might be arrested and whisked away to indefinite, lawyerless detention by the military, but remember: This isn’t about what’s logical, it’s about what’s going on in the brains of people like Lindsey Graham and John McCain. 

At what point do those luminaries start equating al-Qaeda supporters with, say, radical anti-capitalists in the Occupy movement? What exactly is the difference between such groups in the minds (excuse me, in what passes for the minds) of the people who run this country?"
Read more: 'Indefinite Detention of American Citizens: Coming Soon to Battlefield U.S.A.',

To the question on "EXISTING LAW" in NDAA amendment 1456, Jose Padilla, a US citizen, captured in US, held for almost 4 years by military without charge,  Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals:
p.6 "We conclude that the President does possess authority pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force Joint Resolution enacted by Congress in the wake of the attacks on the United States of September, 11, 2001. Accordingly, the judgment of the district court is reversed."
p.8 "The district court subsequently held that the President lacks the authority to detain Padilla, id. at 180-81, that Padilla's detention is in violation of the Constitution and laws of the United States, id., and that Padilla therefore must either be criminally charged or released."


In other news...
'Oath Keepers Alert: Federal Agents Demand Customer Lists From Mormon Food Storage Facility'


NOTE Video Description: "THIS EXAMPLE VIDEO IS AN ''EXAMPLE'' OF WHAT THEY CAN DO LEGALLY NOW... Many of us have wondered if directed to; would our own military turn on us? It appears that this is the plan and has been all along, yet the question remains......would they actually do it if ordered to?"

Personally, I don't believe many would follow orders against American citizens but DON'T leave it to question!  GO TO DC and OCCUPY OUR RIGHTS, NOW!!

Overriding a presidential veto of a bill requires a 2/3 supermajority vote in both the House and Senate, NDAA passed with 75% approval by the House and 93% approval by the Senate

Update- 12/09/11--
Why Obama Will Not Veto NDAA Military Detention of Americans: He Requested It.

Update 12/10/11- Add it up!
Obama's 'request' shows he wants to imprison US citizens and legal residents. I expect he'll sign and say he is pleased with the 'compromised amendment' and there is overwhelming support from CONgress... excuse for MORE TREASON!  
Take the Oath, not this job:
The US Army Now Offers A Prison Guard Specialty Securing 'Civilian Detainees'
US Army - Careers & Jobs
Internment / Resettlement Specialist

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Peace Officers, and Fire Fighters who will fulfill the Oath we swore, with the support of like minded citizens who take an Oath to stand with us, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God. Our Oath is to the Constitution
Our motto is "Not on our watch!"

White House Unveiling Plans on Getting Schools, Community Boards and Leaders (Chruches) to "Spy for Homegrown Terrorist"

UPDATE 12/11/11
and here it is... Police say Occupy London Protesters are a "terror threat"

Occupy Suspects: Police brand campers a terror threat


Some people think America is the 'Land of the Free'... what more proof is needed?  Call Everyone You Know!  Wake Up Every Patriot so They Will ACT TOO!  THE TIME IS NOW, TODAY!  THIS IS NOT A DRILL!

The Price of Doing Nothing, EVERYTHING!
We are Many, They are Few!  UNITE for FREEDOM

Knowledge is Power! KNOW the FACTS! Use this IMPORTANT Information to WAKE UP AMERICA!

America is CLOSING...  
More Proof, How and Why throughout this blog, a few suggestions below: 

NO due process for Americans in America.  WE are NOT terrorists but the government does NOT want YOU to know the TRUTH about the globalist agenda.  The Closing of America IS VERY REAL and the steps they are taking in DC with this bill are EXTREMELY SERIOUS!  The traitorous Patriot Act is still in affect so even if we STOP this bill, it's not the salvation of our Freedom lost... they'll just use the military to come-n-get-us if it becomes law- 
RETURN The Rule of Law!~

Hacking Freedom for Fascism

America is POISONED...



'Conspiracy of Silence' Illuminate the Evil

It is THEM against PEOPLE...

The War on People is a War on You

See the Growing Fascism, Government Spying, Fusion Centers... 

USA - Unspeakable Secrets of America

Give Me Liberty!!!

Never Forget, WE OUTNUMBER THEM!  And that scares them!  Peace

"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -
- Winston Churchill
Rule by fear or rule by law?
"Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."'

Obama’s veto-threat has nothing to do with military detention of US citizens [since HE REQUESTED it].  If he does veto it is because detainees would have some rights.
"Misreading the Fight over Military Detention: The Obama Regime Has No Constitutional Scruples"--
(read this letter:

UPDATE 12/14/11
So it is done. Congress passed repeal of the constitution w/ nary a shiver. You know all that bullshit at the start of the current session about Republicans reading aloud the constitution and the bill of rights? What a crock of shit!  Obama dropped his veto-threat because he got the power he wanted. read it and weep,
'Permanent Martial Law - NO Due Process for Americans in America',


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